Why Eby shouldn’t wait for the second German report to call a public inquiry in BC

70 thoughts on “Why Eby shouldn’t wait for the second German report to call a public inquiry in BC”

1. An inquiry if done properly will need to have many, far reaching tentacles; ICBC, BC Hydro, Site C, money laundering, influence peddling etc. etc. and it all ties in to the previous 16 years of governance.

   This interview ties in to the whole sordid mess. It is in at least three segments so follow it through. Plecas and Mullen have some lofty goals.
   https://bc.ctvnews.ca/there-s-people-going-to-jail-b-c-speaker-chief-of-staff-allege-officials-broke-the-law-1.4287924#_gus&_gucid=&_gup=twitter&_gsc=2D4khUR
   It is at least nice to hear so many people are now coming forward.

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   1. Absolutely correct!

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2. Given Mr Trudeau’s widely televised and oddly circular denial-of-a-denial response today, a la the latest SNC Lavalin scandal, is it surprising that he’d also equivocate, waffle, dodge and stammer about whether to provide federal government support (or encouragement) for a BC Public Inquiry?

   Should someone ask? Oh, wait, they did!

   If anything, how can Our Leader’s painful-to-witness evasions on this issue, like those of our perpetually inactive Attorney General, be justified as supporting the idea that Justice matters to Canadian politicians? Especially following numerous reports that the feds created legislation to provide loopholes so that large corporate friends could plea bargain away criminal charges and jail time?

   Are such Legislative get-out-of-court deals soon to appear in BC?.

   Aside from Laila Yuile does anyone else agree that it’s time to start a public inquiry into Organized Crime?

   Ooops! There is! It’s a BC government union – the BCGEU – busy canvassing the public, and Sam Cooper citing his many sources again!

   https://globalnews.ca/news/4934459/prime-minister-justin-trudeau-bc-casino-public-inquiry/

   “Also on Thursday, an influential union comprised of B.C. government workers that has called for a public inquiry into money laundering and the opioid and housing affordability crises in B.C., released a poll that showed “overwhelming support” for such an inquiry.”

   “The poll commissioned by the BC Government and Service Employees’ Union showed:”

   “77 per cent of British Columbians in favour of an inquiry.”
   “80 per cent of respondents say that an anti-corruption office similar to the one in Quebec should be established in B.C.”
   “84 per cent say that this would be an important voting issue for them if a provincial election were called tomorrow.”

   So what? That’s only one report. Could there be others?

   In The Province, Stephanie Smith , president of the 78,000-member BCGEU, writes an op-ed,

   https://theprovince.com/opinion/op-ed/stephanie-smith-b-c-needs-a-public-inquiry-to-get-to-the-bottom-of-money-laundering

   Also in The Province Tiffany Crawford writes,

   https://theprovince.com/news/local-news/majority-of-british-columbians-support-money-laundering-inquiry-poll/wcm/cfc6a9ba-fe6e-4770-9c35-195a4831b8d9

   Sam Cooper at Global among others quotes Stephanie Smith..

   https://globalnews.ca/news/4934459/prime-minister-justin-trudeau-bc-casino-public-inquiry/

   “This poll backs up what we’ve been saying for months: British Columbians want answers,” union president Stephanie Smith stated. “No matter where they live, how old they are or who they vote for the citizens of our province support a comprehensive public inquiry as a way to get to the bottom of how these crises are connected, to make sure those who are responsible are held accountable and that the rest of us are protected going forward.”

   Meanwhile?

   Seemingly ignoring these same issues entirely, where’s the NDP response? Nowhere in sight.

   Curious, no? Can someone explain what happened to The NDP?

   The party that pledged (prior to election) that it would make Big Decisions based only on Best Evidence, isn’t actively seeking public consent, or acknowledging public demand, or rousing itself to act on, or seek, any evidence which might disturb those we’d rather see prosecuted and in jail…

   How very, um, well…geese, ah, “Liberal” of them.

   But be assured, our heroic NDP types, they’re not at all like Those Other Clowns so many voted to replace.

   Right?

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3. I’ve read and reread this; thought about it before posting because I don’t like the taste of it and want to know if I’m wrong.
   https://bc.ctvnews.ca/lay-it-before-law-enforcement-premier-urges-speaker-to-take-criminal-allegations-to-police-1.4287951
   “We do make laws, and we’re not supposed to break laws, but I’ve not seen any evidence that’s the case,”

   “He’s taken steps and we want to work with him in the legislature to clean up the system,” said Horgan.”

   Is the rug moving? Am I wrong to be reading politics here? No evidence of law breaking? Put these same circumstances in a private environment, a charity, a constituency office. Would it be said; “there is no policy or signage saying “don’t put your grubby little hands in the till. Is that where we are headed? We’ll deal with it in house?

   However, I do think some of the statements in the Plecas/Mullen BCTV interview were over the top, especially Mr. Mullen’s forceful comments that “people are going to jail.” That is not for him to decide.

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   1. Worrisome. And this is why. Claire Trevena has again refused to pay back her husbands flight based on ‘standard practice ‘.

      Standard practice can cover for all sorts of evils, because if everyone was doing it or it had always been done that way, it’s sort of an implied acceptance. Wilfully blind so to speak.

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      1. Oh yeah, i forgot Trevana was entitled. She had her pass to ride the gravy train first class. But these politicians didn’t really need to over gorge themselves at the trough, because one would figure she and others had some scope of common sense and morality, that would have steered them from taking so much extra. But nope, the urge to pig out was too great. If she doesn’t pay back that unjustified expense then she will be forever known as just another one of the arrogant greedy entitled.

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         1. Claire Trevena needs to keep her eye on the mirror, ‘case someone’s catching up. Her margin of victory has dropped ’09-’13 and ’13-’17. it won’t take much for the North Island’s honest, hard working folks to look elsewhere in ’21.

            We really do need to start thumping the “independent” drum harder, across the entire province.

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4. “Unseen forces can exert powerful influence on public officials, diverting policy and investigations to benefit unknown interests. This is the threat of public corruption. Once a public official crosses the line, they are no longer working for the public, but are using their public office to work for someone else…..”

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   Gee, kinda reminds me of Trudeau giving the axe to Jody Wilson Raybould…..

   Trudeau…… a puppet on the SNC strings…..?

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5. corruption is an 8 armed octopus and secrecy is the currency of it.

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6. “We do make laws, and we’re not supposed to break laws, but I’ve not seen any evidence that’s the case.” – Premier John Horgan

   That is simply not true.

   Mr. Horgan has seen evidence that a former Attorney General approved a deal to end the BC Rail trial and he’s seen evidence that another former Attorney General said that deal as constructed would be illegal. And the current Deputy Attorney General signed that deal on behalf of the government.

   Mr. Horgan will not even comment on that, let alone act to rectify it in the public interest.

   It seems that John Horgan is just another slippery politician when it comes to protecting his peers.

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   1. I just can’t let it go.
      “We do make laws, and we’re not supposed to break laws, but I’ve not seen any evidence that’s the case,”

      How is it a work for the people low wage journalist sees it, when a $200,000 (+++) a year provincial leader can’t?
      https://thebreaker.news/news/legislature-cbsa-james-lenz/

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7. Unwitting, willful blindness, Lew?
   Those comments from Horgan are just not acceptable. Oh, wait, perhaps he “misspoke.’

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   1. Tim, as usual Laila nails it:

      “I honestly think the inner circle in the NDP, the real power brokers behind the mla’s you all elected, are sitting there trying to weigh whether the cost and time involved in a credible arms length,Charbonneau style commission will win enough votes to win a majority government or whether daycare and new walk in urgent care centres will do the job….”

      I put it much more crudely last month, but the sentiment remains. They are trying to figure out whether feeding us eggs benny for breakfast will allow them to offer us dog turds for lunch.

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      1. And this continued word manipulation by everyone involved does not help.
         Ipsos/Global poll results “Ask a person from almost any demographic across British Columbia, and they’re likely to tell you the same thing: they support a public inquiry into allegations of money laundering at the province’s casinos.”

         If I had hair, I’d be yanking it out. ANY inquiry should not stop at casinos but be pounding on the doors of government. That is where all this began.

         A public inquiry into laundering at casinos would be a nice little hand ringing exercise of diversion. No, the people of BC want more than that. Much, much more.

         Plecas was right and I’m ready to throw up.

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8. Perhaps the following questions only reflect my ignorance of how much government relations with their employees have changed, meaning, declined.

   But… Another survey authorized by the BCGEU?

   I tink that most people on this blog understand that a full Public Inquiry is long overdue. Logically, as in the latest Ottawa scandal over political interference in the nation’s Justice System, there is no possible justification in BC for refusing to investigate Organized Crime. Especially when criminal activity and harm to the BC public is so obviously rampant.

   The idea that a new survey would confirm widespread agreement with what appears in this blog is heartening but no real surprise. But let’s venture beyond that: given that public employees are heavily restricted in what they are allowed to reveal, what are provincial government employees trying to tell us?

   Put another way: how frequently, anywhere in Canada, has any government union conducted polling to establish and confirm a huge gulf between what the public wants done and what a government says it is not willing to do to strengthen and enforce the Law?

   Further, what sufficient conditions must pre-exist among government employees, conditions unknown to the public, to cause a union to act in such an exceptional way?

   What must employee morale be like? What level of confidence or lack of it must exist to warrant a step so unusual as authorizing multiple public consultations without ministerial approval? Surveys you’d expect the government would conduct out of self-interest to preserve their own very limited hold on high office.

   Who expects a union, any union, to reject the union movements’ most prominent political ally?

   To me the same question keeps returning: What are provincial government employees trying to tell us about the conditions they confront among the people whose duty it is to ensure Justice is well cared for and managed properly?

   Anyone know?

   Well past 70, I’ve never seen anything resembling the mess we’re mired in now. Not federally, not provincially, not municipally. It’s absolute FUBAR.

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   1. On the run this morning,but I’m curious what BCLC thinks of Walter Soo selling Great Canadian shares…

      No ones squeaking about it. And is anyone else selling shares? Or is Walter – I get the VIP players- Soo all alone?

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      1. I think Peter German is fast becoming an almost useless figure now. Talk about a conflict. There’s a lot of smudges on that picture.

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9. Baling out before the feces hit the fan, or more politely, ‘before the fits the shan’?
   I’m curious as to why we haven’t heard from the legislature pair (other than Norm’s ‘leak’) by now. February 7th was yesterday.

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   1. They did reply,they wanted the lamc to release their responses to the public and the LAMC is going to decide after reviewing and getting legal advice.

      I think the LAMC has nothing to lose by releasing it. Let it all be out in the open

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10. “Finally, Chinese money laundering is tied to Canada’s number one public health crisis, namely the nearly 4,000 fentanyl overdose deaths per year. According to Canadian law enforcement, most of this fentanyl – including the deadly tainted version of the drug – is manufactured by and shipped from China-based factories through online sales to Canadian drug users and traffickers.

    To launder these illegal sales within British Columbia, organized crime linked to China cleaned up $1-billion in 2016 alone; they did so by buying Vancouver real estate. An additional $1.7-billion was laundered between 2013 and 2017 by pumping money into casino earnings. These Vancouver mobsters make and move so much dirty money they make Tony Soprano look like a two-bit crook.”

    Above quote is from a G+M article today:

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-high-price-of-chinese-money-laundering-in-canada/

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11. Former Pathetic Premier Christy Clark’s name should be at the top of the list for a large part of responsibility in this destruction in our province. The buck stopped there.

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    1. I’m still very much of the opinion, Christy Clarke was just a pretty face in all this. Not without complicity but to me, she was groomed as a “just do as you are told, run a red light or two, do some yoga on the bridge, wiggle and giggle, say “ya know what” a lot and keep them all distracted.”.

       I’m betting her current “appointment” is in a windowless room, next to the copier room where she never shows up. Be quiet, lay low and cash your paycheque. Kind of her version of a London High Commissioner.

       She simply is not smart enough to be anything more than a bit player. A dupe.
       Coleman is the big prize.

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       1. Coleman sure is one of the BIG prizes, but ya know i seen something lacking in Clark as a politician and Premier. Empathy. A groomed puppet or not. Intelligent but lacking empathy in her job yes, which makes a person in her capacity, in complete charge and knowing in crystal clarity what her boot kissers were doing. The all obedient generals informing the Queen and doing her bidding, but much at their discretion and protecting the Queen. Just an observation.

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          1. Christy Clark “intelligent”?

             I wouldnt underestimate her ability to decieve but intelligent? Hardly.
             Vapid, self absorbed, narcissistic, socio pathic, are but a few adjectives I would use to decribe Her Royal Clark-ness.
             Intelligent…..never.
             She was at the right moment in time when Gordo scuttled off to his London England, BC Rail, self banishment ( before the questions got too nasty)and was more photogenic than the other trolls living under the Liberal bridge.
             Clark. Another “pretty” puppet to keep the voters enthralled.
             It worked for the Federal Libs in the Last election.
             But , eventually, their own inflated egos and self worth gets in the way of the orders that are handed to then and they go “off script” with stupid, inane , BS. .

             As one of Clarks Political Science profs at SFU once commented after she proudly announced in class,” I’m going to be Prime Minister some day!”

             “Of which country?”, was his sardonic reply.

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12. I’m having wishful thoughts out of anger because i imagine a time where we could see Reward and Wanted posters for Criminal Politicians and BCLC Officials and other Suspects for complicity in Criminal violations and Causing Destructive Acts to the People of B.C. and Families.

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13. Has David Eny just lost the unwavering support of his most prominent media booster?

    https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/vaughn-palmer-time-for-eby-to-end-bluff-or-play-public-inquiry-cards-for-casinos

    “Vaughn Palmer: Time for Eby to end ‘bluff’ or play public inquiry cards for casinos”

    “VICTORIA — Why haven’t the New Democrats called a public inquiry into money laundering?”

    “Just ask Attorney-General David Eby, who has given multiple explanations for not doing so even as he encourages speculation about the possibilities.”

    “Eby rolled out his first reason for not calling a public inquiry in the fall of 2017, following recruitment of Peter German to conduct an expedited review of money laundering in casinos.”

    ““Public inquiries generally take a long time,” said Eby. “People lawyer up and it takes a year or two before you get the recommendations. I just don’t feel we have that kind of time and I also don’t think the solutions are so complicated.””

    “Any kind of public inquiry discussion would (mean) federal government involvement, whether it’s a joint inquiry or otherwise, given the national and international dimensions of this,” conceded Eby.”

    (further into the story)

    “Would Ottawa want its agencies and bureaucrats paraded through the naming and blaming exercise of a public inquiry? I doubt it.”

    “Still, for all his reasons for not ordering a public inquiry, Eby insists the possibility remains active.

    ““If it’s necessary to get the information out to British Columbians, we will not hesitate to call a public inquiry,” he told the CBC’s Gloria Macarenko recently. “The premier has made that commitment.””

    “Thus the artful Eby continues to switch between the prudent justice minister who doesn’t want to waste time and effort on a fruitless exercise and the crusading attorney general who threatens to blow the whole thing wide open.”

    “But 18 months into the term of government, the act is wearing thin. The New Democrats should either launch the public inquiry or rule it out. Enough trying to have it both ways.”

    Interesting to see Mr Eby’s quote “If it’s necessary to get the information out to British Columbians, we will not hesitate to call a public inquiry..”

    “If it is necessary”? Who determined that it wasn’t necessary? Having already rejected the necessity only if it suddenly becomes necessary then, “We won’t hesitate”?

    Could someone apolitical explain the reasoning behind not informing the public because it isn’t necessary for the Justice System to investigate Organized Crime?
    Beyond stall consistently where is there any proof that our A.G. has done more than demonstrate chronic paralysis? Is this guy Hamlet?

    After the BCGEU polls, and now Vaughn Palmer’s mild broadside, I don’t see how Mr Eby can continue at the same game without incurring enormous damage to the NDP’s reputation. The NDP’s prospects for staying in power, or next election, returning to power?

    Speaking of awkward polls..

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4937536/bc-money-laundering-inquiry-support-poll/

    “A B.C. money laundering public inquiry is backed by every demographic that was asked in this Ipsos poll”

    “Ask a person from almost any demographic across British Columbia, and they’re likely to tell you the same thing: they support a public inquiry into allegations of money laundering at the province’s casinos.”

    “That’s according to a poll conducted by Ipsos Public Affairs on behalf of Global News.”

    “The poll found that around three-quarters (76 per cent) of respondents supported a public inquiry — 38 per cent showed strong support, while 42 per cent “somewhat” backed the idea.”
    Next?

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/w5-investigates-massive-money-laundering-that-has-b-c-awash-in-illegal-cash-1.4287337

    “W5 investigates massive money laundering that has B.C. awash in illegal cash”

    “Court cases have collapsed, news conferences cancelled, and political leaders stonewalled in multiple attempts to inform the public of the magnitude of British Columbia’s problem with illegal gambling.”

    “Not that things haven’t been going on away from the public eye. For at least six years, someone who witnessed criminal behavior has been quietly co-operating with the RCMP and helping reporters ask the right questions.”

    “In this week’s W5 investigation, he reveals his identity in public for the first time, hoping it will help all Canadians appreciate the scope of our country’s problem with organized crime and money laundering.”

    https://theprovince.com/news/local-news/investigation-only-10-convictions-for-money-laundering-
    in-b-c-since-2002/wcm/7b0fea09-d06a-47d6-a63d-b15fd7f8e666

    “Investigation: Only 10 convictions for money laundering in B.C. Since 2002”

    “A Postmedia investigation found most cases, including one involving $24 million, are never successfully prosecuted despite lengthy police probes.”

    Is the tide is turning?

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14. Bob Mackin has copies of the full responses from James and Lenz here;
    https://thebreaker.news/news/responses-to-plecas-report/

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15. ” standard practice”
    ” well known and not done in secret”
    ” if it was inappropriate shouldnt have been approved ”
    ” expenses posted publically”

    Ahem. I guess ‘standard practice ‘ excessive spending is ok, so long as it’s done publicly and no one says anything.

    Hes putting it all back on the speakers, the mla’s and the auditor general.

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16. Agree.
    I don’t see much in there, just he said, she said. Both indicated they didn’t have enough time to respond to everything so I guess that’s why they don’t say much more than “blame the speaker” and in the case of James; I, I, I.

    James went to great pains to say he had no access to staff or documents and was working mostly from memory. He then went on to quote explicitly from many documents, some going quite far back. Good memory.

    One word caught my eye; “innuendo.” Andrew Wilkinson used the word “innuendo” in a presser after he read James response, in which the word “innuendo” was used. Both used it to describe the basis for Plecas charges. Small stuff, I know but it just struck me as odd.

    They also had to have collaborated on their responses because they made the same date error.

    This…
    “Plecas, reached by phone Friday afternoon, confirmed he had read the reports and described them as “a good piece of fiction,” but said he had no further comment.”

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17. Daryl Plecus summed up the set up of the legislature gravy train system. He described it as being Corruption by design.

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18. A serious inquiry is needed to not only bring punishments weather by shame and/or prosecutions, but to also bring the politicians down off their high horses of arrogance and warped beliefs of entitlement, and thinking they live in another world separate from us. Make them know and remember that they work for us. In other word’s. Who the F..K do they think they are.

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19. The Bob and Dermod show is both enlightening and highly entertaining. They are having fun with this.
    Bob Mackin:
    “Among the neighbourhoods on Southern Vancouver Island without power since late last night, because of (BC storm), is the Saanich cul-de-sac that is home to suspended Clerk Craig James. He no longer has that “in case of disaster” wood-splitter paid for by the public.”
    Dermod Travis (Integrity BC):
    “With all that concrete at the legislature, it’s quite remarkable that there was no temporary landing pad for that wood-splitter.”

    I’m still a bit miffed as to why these two were not instructed to NOT respond to LAMC. Does not that old saw; “you have the right to remain silent; anything you do say could be used against you” not apply to employees of the Legislature?

    I fail to see anything in either response that helps their case(s). As I said before, I thought lawyers might take a hard line; “charge my client or let them get back to work.”

    Perhaps there is something here about them not continuing to receive a combined salary of about $30,000 per month if no response was submitted?

    I also wonder why the media sharks have not approached any of the neighbours. They would if it were the Bacons or HA. No?

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    1. $30,000 per month? Try $47,000/month! Already we’ve paid them over $140,000 to stay at home! But we’ve saved almost $40,000 in per diems!
       Makes one wonder how the legislature functions without these stalwarts.

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       1. John, I was accounting for that which they will voluntarily pay back.

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20. https://blogborgcollective.blogspot.com/2019/02/james-lenz-additional-powers-including.html

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21. James defence for taking his wife on taxpayer funded junkets was that Policies and Procedures allowed for the purchase of two tickets.
    Guess who wrote that P&P.

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    1. She might have demanded to go along so she wouldn’t have to kiss him goodbye.

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22. “go along” yes, as they all did.

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23. Laila will enjoy the last half of this piece. Though it starts with the Jody & Justin duet, there is a good segment beginning at the 15:50 mark with Professor Jennifer Quaid, discussing SNC Lavalin in very easy to listen to terms.

    At 21:50 she gets into the Mediation Agreement (DPA) Bill and how it was snuck into place without debate and at 22:40, how Canada was seen internationally as being slow in dealing with corruption.

    It’s a fascinating watch, which really shows how slimy and corrupt our entire political system has become.

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    1. Ban all Lobbyist money.
       No more money from big business would be a good start to rid Canadian politics of undue influence….

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24. This boils down to the basic question;”What is Horgan afraid of”; “who is he protecting?”

    Inquiries have a strange tenancy to veer from the chosen path to the criminal path and may embarrass or worse, politcal friends and insiders.

    What we have is the Liberal inspired “open market” of money laundering at BC Casinos, where now, several billions of dollars were cleansed. It is now understood that this money was further cleansed in metro Vancouver’s “free for all” real-estate market.

    So who were involved?

    The BC Liberals of course, but also the NDP friendly Vision Vancouver and golly gee whiz, who is Horgan’s top advisor, and with aspersions of being one day provincial/federal party leader, the one and only Geof Meggs!

    Market Overt style money launder at casinos in BC. Billions of dollars of fresh laundered money > buying residential properties > creating a demand for affordable housing > causing Vancouver Council to up-zone properties (especially near SkyTrain stations) to build condo towers . which more casino laundered money now buys > creating more demand for towers > causes universities and professors to cobble together a Lysenko style philosophy of densification > causes more affordable housing to be demolished (demovictions) > creating more demand for affordable housing > densification philosophy demands a SkyTrain rapid transit to be built both is Surrey and Vancouver to act as a driver for densification > more and more laundered casino money (the Vancouver model) fuels land development and land speculation > demanding more affordable housing to be torn down to build unaffordable condo towers > causing more people to move outside of metro Vancouver and commute in by car > creating congestion on all major highways and bridges > causing the government to do nothing for fear the entire money laundering house of cards collapses.

    So here we have the BC Liberals, Vision Vancouver, the City of Burnaby, and Surrey, UBC, SFU, the engineering progression, TransLink, charitable organizations, regional politicians (civic provincial and federal), and the mainstream media all embroiled within the tentacles of the money laundering scandal and Horgan is damned afraid to deal with it.

    The money laundering house of cards, propped up by cowardly politicians of all politcal stripes, for fear of being forever tarnished with the stink of a money laundering scandal.

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25. Another well written, timely piece.
    https://www.straight.com/news/1199241/another-media-barrage-about-money-laundering-bc-again-no-mention-business-corporations

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    1. Did anyone watch the second segment on w5 last night? Mentioning the deputy ministers and premier back east on PEI?

       This is the other aspect we need to address in BC…not just money laundering, but the abuse of power in govt.How bids are awarded and to whom.

       Like this….https://thenarwhal.ca/bc-hydro-awarded-90-million-in-site-c-dam-contracts-without-asking-for-bids-documents-reveal/

       “….direct award contracts BC Hydro granted from March 2016 to October 2018, including contracts to numbered companies, the documents show.

       Direct award contracts allow BC Hydro and other public bodies to decide which companies or consultants get contracts, instead of going through a more transparent and competitive tender process.

       Four companies that donated to the BC Liberal Party were awarded contracts totalling $11.5 million, while an oil and gas corporation that owns an inactive gas well in the Site C dam construction zone was awarded almost $1 million from BC Hydro to permanently cap the well.”

       I’ll have more to say about this sometime next week.

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       1. It is much closer to home than one thinks.

          TransLink may find itself embroiled in the SNC Lavalin scandal. Translink is being found not the honest transit planner it wants taxpayer to think it is.

          Rumor has it that current CEO Kevin Desmond may bail by the end of 2019 at the interference by SNC.

          UBC is also gung-ho for current planning, even though the money laundering scandal has burst the Vancouver housing market. Horgan quivers and Eby knows he’s toast in the next election and is looking federally for the NDP, that is, if there is a NDP after the next election as the current leader is going to lose very badly.

          Mind you, if the SNC Scandal has wheels, it may force many people to hold their nose and not vote Liberal.

          The NDP are dancing around the “Vancouver Model” scandal for so long that the guilty are cashing out and departing. Those Chinese only clubs are disappearing and the houses remain vacant or with a “hired” live in to give the appearance of a single family occupancy.

          But you can be sure, Money laundering; property development; rapid transit planning and unaffordable housing are all part of this incestuous and malignant casino money laundering scandal.

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26. @ Evil Eye. Excellent summary leading to several questions among which – should an agency outside BC government control be studying the relationshiops between BC Business, the BC government, and Organized Crime?.

    @Tim

    Agreed. Awkward enough that the BCGEU polled the public on money laundering, bad enough that Vaughn Palmer now seems unconvinced that a Public Inquiry isn’t justified given a deeper look into the scandal, now there are video presentations describing the scandal in detail and published nation wide.

    Mr Eby’s valiant Sitzkreig not only is being questioned from coast to coast but abroad as well..

    Need samples anyone?

    https://www.timescolonist.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-too-much-dirty-money-1.23613036

    “Duffel bags of dirty cash were rolling into B.C. for years, while the federal government kept the province in the dark about the extent of the problem.”

    “After the NDP took power in 2017, Attorney General David Eby said the previous B.C. Liberal government had turned a blind eye to money-laundering that could amount to $200 million a year. It now appears that the amounts are more like $1 billion.”

    “An international report surfaced that pegged money-laundering in the province at $1 billion a year, while an RCMP report estimated that the proceeds of crime bought $1 billion worth of property in Vancouver.”

    “Former RCMP officer Peter German has completed one report on money-laundering and is working on a second. His evaluation of the problem was already alarming. The fact that the police and the feds were sitting on more explosive data makes one wonder if everybody is on the same team.”

    “Eby should not have had to discover this information second-hand. The police and his federal counterparts should have been keeping the province up to speed.”

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-moves-closer-to-money-laundering-public-inquiry-feds-vow-crack-down-1.5012750

    “Money laundering in British Columbia has become a top issue for the federal and provincial governments with federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau vowing a “crack down” Friday, while the province considers a public inquiry.”

    “”The importance of dealing with money laundering concerns is something that is clearly on our agenda,” said Morneau at a news conference in Victoria. “We need to be very clear, we crack down on any issues around money laundering.””

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4942734/vancouver-money-laundering-inquiry/

    “There could soon be yet another voice calling for a public inquiry to look into money laundering and organized crime in B.C.: the City of Vancouver.”

    “Coun. Christine Boyle will present a motion to council on Tuesday asking the city to formally join the call for an inquiry.”

    “Boyle’s motion also calls for any such inquiry to include links to real estate and the overdose crisis in its terms of reference.”

    Responses from Mr Eby and the NDP brass?

    Nothing to inspire public confidence.

    How is this appropriate?

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27. I watched it online this morning. In the PEI piece alone there are so many side topics but it was the gas-lighting and squashing the whistleblowers that was so sickening and demonstrated the power. Pitting little island folk, one against the other.

    Funny isn’t it; PEI nominee scandal, BC (fill in the blank) scandal, Ottawa’s SNC scandal, all involve liberals. On the other hand, I doubt other provinces are much cleaner.

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28. Watched all of W5. What I found interesting was in Part 2, the PEI escapades, they mentioned the political parties names more than once. In the first part, dealing with B.C., they never mention the words, B.C. LIEBERALS. The piece shows a picture of deJong and that is it. During the first part of segment 1 they only refer to “the government”. Then they advise the viewers there was a change in government to the NDP, and they continue with the word “government”. If the NDP DOESN’T WATCH OUT, COME THE NEXT ELECTION, THAT WORD GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO STICK. People will actually have it in their minds that the NDP was responsible for the actions taken by the B.C. LIEBERALS. It may actually be the intent of the piece also. It truly was entertaining how the use of words worked in the first part of W5 when dealing with B.C., no mention of the B.C. Lieberals. Nice work. The B.C. NDP, NEED TO CALL AN INQUIRY OR THEY may wind up wearing all of it, simply by the media’s constant use of the words, “the government”.

    (had just read an article on Empty Wheel an American blog on “introduction to discourse analysis. the article refers to another article also which made me think of it) That lecture Noam Chomsky gave at SFU back in the early 1990s is useful from time to time

    The use of words is important because they frequently convey the real meaning of the article. W5 reported on the money laundering, but do most of the watchers of the program know who the government was at the beginning of the saga? In my opinion, it reported on money laundering, but people could conclude all of it was the NDP’s fault, so if Horgan doesn’t call an inquiry, he may wind up wearing all of it, and the B.C. LIEBERALS WHO STARTED IT ALL, will be in the clear. People only hear what they want to.

    W5 also leaves people with the impression, after all the work the person who was fired by the BCLC, did, even the NDP didn’t care about it. They leave him sitting on a bench, where they started, and all he has left is his tennis to make a living. The message to me was clear, the NDP never valued his work either. Again, the message is there, its the BCLC fault and perhaps the NDPs fault, not the B.C. LIEBERALS. Never to clear that the BCLC reported to the B.C. LIEBERALS. never hear the words Christy Clark or Coleman. just so interesting.

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    1. One or two problems with e.a.f. complaints

       Argument 1: “People will actually have it in their minds that the NDP was responsible for the actions taken by the B.C. LIEBERALS.”

       They will? You know that for certain? Is this what the BCGEU survey concluded? That the NDP secretly controlled BC lib policy for 16 years, while all us uniformed voters thought it was Campbell, Christy and the libs in charge?

       What percentage of the public do you think might be dumb enough to believe that the NDP is “responsible” for what the BC libs clearly did years earlier? Which sector of the public merits that much mistrust? More than one?

       Based solely on your interpretation of trivial language in one video the NDP is in dire peril of being falsely accused?

       Think proportion. Not only is there more than one media outlet working on the Casino and Real Estate scandals, there’s more than one province, and more than one country wondering why our BC AG has turned supine before the menace of Organized Crime..

       Like them or not, the media made it clear that when the BC liberals were in charge they did not act effectively to thwart BC crime. A crisis, first identified in 1994, not only remained unresolved but because the libs dodged and ignored their responsibilities the crisis spread, deepened, and nothing positive was accomplished. Disagree?

       Since you’re consulting the future, if it was unacceptable for the libs to look the other way (because it made things much worse) why would the same unacceptability now be invalid when the NDP stalled for 18 months more?

       Argument 2:“…so if Horgan doesn’t call an inquiry, he may wind up wearing all of it, and the B.C. LIEBERALS WHO STARTED IT ALL, will be in the clear. People only hear what they want to.”

       You state, “People only hear what they want to.” Very true. Or understand more than what their own prejudices allow,.

       Why assume everything is up to Mr. Horgan? Is he Attorney General?

       You think that the NDP is on shaky ground and needs to watch out? Agreed.

       Assuming Mr. Eby suddenly dug in his heels, went ahead with the inquiry, and then was fired by Mr. Horgan (a la Ms Wilson-Raybould) how many NDP MLAs would decide to become Independent while those who remained NDP lobbied to have Mr. Horgan replaced?

       How much support is there for not having an Inquiry? Is that sum important assuming an accidental election occurs?

       Detailed arguments (like Laila’s, “Why Eby shouldn’t wait for the second German report to call a public inquiry in BC”) seem to be resonant and well established across this province. Is it your view that Laila and all those polled are wrong?

       How did more than 70% polled decide that Mr Eby’s continued refusal to act is unacceptable?

       Finally, please tell us, how does the NDP’s third largest financial backer – the BCGEU? – benefit in any way from conducting surveys which show how deeply the public disagrees with A.G. stasis and by extension mistrusts the party?

       Please advise..

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29. E. Random;
    >>Why assume everything is up to Mr. Horgan? Is he Attorney General? <<
    That line was in response to e.a.f. stating Horgan would wear this, correct?

    I agree with e.a.f; Mr. Horgan will wear it.

    People connect party and leader and when things happen or don't under a leader's watch, they wear it. The perfect example being how many blame Christy Clark for the mess we're in? Not only did it all begin before her time, in my opinion, she as a thick, uneducated, rube, who had little to do with it. Who can name AGs over the 16 year liberal reign?

    The big money behind the right always connects the leader and party; fast ferries = Glen Clark.

    So, in my opinion, yes, if an inquiry doesn't happen or doesn't generate satisfaction amongst the people, Mr. Horgan will wear this.

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    1. The Public Inquiry Act gives Cabinet the authority to establish a public inquiry. The Attorney General can call for an inquiry, but cannot legally establish one unilaterally.

       Having said that, in my opinion Mr. Eby should be calling for one. If that exposes the intransigence of the Premier and his cabinet, so be it. The Attorney General has a traditional role and duty in our system that is supposed to put the administration of justice above political considerations. It is not apparent here that such is the case.

       http://www.bclaws.ca/civix/document/id/complete/statreg/07009_01#section2

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       1. Also, an expert from Charbonneau is already on record for saying there is no need to wait for this next German report to call one, or can simply be submitted to the inquiry.

          The worst thing for Horgan is his own mouth. He is on record as having been concerned about cost, cost, and time. So, he IS his own worst enemy in the face of what I consider overwhelming corruption that HAS or DOES involve bureaucrats or employees at some level. As E.Random has pointed out,the bcgeu is literally begging for one and its unfair to anyone working in this kind of environment. Look at what happens to whistleblowers or truth tellers: harassed, gaslighting,fired, life ruined and of course some of the legislative press gallery will rake you over the coals. What Sean Holman wrote about Tom Fletcher was indicative of what’s wrong with cozy press in BC.

          The safest way for whistleblowers to help is to contact people like Sam Cooper, Bob Mackin, and Dermod Travis. Do not go to David Ebys office or anyone else in govt. As I have said many many times, there are too many leftovers from the BC Libs still in high ministry positions. And do recall that one news article did state an inside source said Meggs and many bureaucrats were opposed to an inquiry while Farnworth and Eby were for it…Horgan was on the fence he likes to sit on because he did after all, choose Meggs personally….

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          1. @Tim

             “So, in my opinion, yes, if an inquiry doesn’t happen or doesn’t generate satisfaction amongst the people, Mr. Horgan will wear this.”

             Since we’re busy speculating I think it would help to expand the likely casualties list among those about to be blamed.

             Remember the 2001 electoral wipe out? Did Glen Clark get the blame? Or did the entire party hit the wall? Did a significant number of NDP regulars think that the Site C double-cross was a terrific way to maintain trust? How about the fish farm fiasco that sank Lana Popham for writing a letter? LNG?

             I think that what Mr Eby has done is confirm the worst about the NDP’s attitude toward voters. With his adamant passivity he demonstrates total senior-level indifference to what the public expected from a minority government. In his Sitzkreig state he refuses to acknowledge the validity of what the public wants and why. Worse is his no-reason-to-hurry (or dig too deep) disdain for a crisis!.

             Mr. Horgan alone will wear this? How many people in Point Grey have permanently stopped backing David Eby while he plays these ridiculous, “Guess what’s really on the table..“ games?

             Beyond that? I have no legal authority or legal training so I can’t pull rank, or consult a handy crystal ball.. But it isn’t necessary. Easily researched and in full public view people with considerable depth of legal and administrative knowledge, like Norm Farrell, like Laila, like Sam Cooper are volunteering to fill the insight gaps.

             For instance.

             https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=global+news+focus+bc&&view=detail&mid=4EFDA9D76AC426427C4E4EFDA9D76AC426427C4E&&FORM=VDRVRV

             Brad West, clearly livid, appears first, and echoes Mr Edwardson’s view “Mr. Eby should be calling for one. If that exposes the intransigence of the Premier and his cabinet, so be it. The Attorney General has a traditional role and duty in our system that is supposed to put the administration of justice above political considerations. It is not apparent here that such is the case.”

             No it isn’t isn’t apparent, is it? The preferred course? Calling, not stalling.

             Next, Poco’s mayor departs and is followed by graphs on the extent of support for a Public Inquiry (76%) then followed, twice, by Simon Tremblay.

             Simon Tremblay? Perhaps is the person Laila described, “an expert from Charbonneau is already on record for saying there is no need to wait for this next German report to call one, or can simply be submitted to the inquiry.”

             Mr Tremblay did indeed work on the Charbonneau Inquiry. A nice man who not only disagrees with Mr Eby’s hestitation, but is baffled by the excuse that any substantive conflict exists between a Public Inquiry and the German Investigation.

             Can someone non-partisan explain how the German Inquiry is actually… useful? Or is it like donning a straightjacket before trying to climb a ladder to look over a wall?

             As others have noted Mr German’s Quest seems awkwardly constructed and feeble in intent. A ceremonial bureaucratic sideshow which as Mr German has made clear is not intended to find fault; will never result in the arrest or conviction of anyone; will prevent nothing: and which assumes that criminals will ignore usually reliable defence lawyer advice never to respond to dangerous questions. Instead, for no imaginable reason, those who do appear will line up and plead no contest for every bad thing they ever did. Granted no guest of Mr German can be compelled to answer anything honestly, but be fair, how difficult could it be to persuade foreign or domestic gangsters that the Public needs to know the Truth? So do fess up..

             Would a Public Inquiry create a terrible conflict with police investigations? Based on his own experience Mr. Tremblay sees no reason to assume a Public Inquiry couldn’t do exactly what the Charbonneau Inquiry did – work WITH the police, work WITH the feds, work WITH the province..

             And as the Charbonneau inquiry did, hit the brakes on runaway criminality and recover lots of assets, property and cash. A prospect somehow never mentioned by any right-thinking partisan follower.

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30. Applause to you both Lew and Laila.
    With respect to the current toxicity in the house, Plecas made a very good point;
    “There was no focus on the people (James and Lenz) being accused. It was nothing, absolutely nothing. It was all about us as the whistleblowers, and of course this made it extremely difficult for the 20 employees because they are all saying, ‘Thank God I didn’t say anything because look at what’s happening to them (Plecas & Mullen)”

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31. This is unreal. And so were Horgans responses in the presser today after the throne speech. Says premature for an inquiry, wait for the second report.

    No Horgan, you dont know more than the Charbonneau experts. Every day you dont call an inquiry is another day people wonder what’s stopping you.

    No one is concerned with cost. No one is concerned over how long it will take. Just you, Meggs, and a posse of worried bureaucrats.

    When the RCMP doesnt trust the government, that speaks volumes. It’s your job now, to find out why that is.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4949413/as-rcmp-investigated-casino-money-laundering-police-distrust-of-b-c-government-grew

    ” Senior police officers were concerned B.C. government officials might have leaked information that “compromised” October, 2015 RCMP raids targeting sophisticated alleged underground casinos in Richmond, B.C., according to records from a B.C. Lottery Corp. whistle-blower….”

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    1. Bob has the story. And Bob asked the questions that needed asking and it sounds like Horgan thinks this is all just incompetence
       .https://thebreaker.news/news/throne-speech-highlights-2019/

       ”

       However, don’t expect a public inquiry into money laundering and corruption yet. 

       The speech referred to two independent reviews underway into the role of money laundering in B.C. real estate and pledged ongoing work with federal partners. “British Columbians are rightly outraged by the possibility that our province’s unacceptably high housing prices are fuelled by the profits of crime, both at home and abroad.

       “Your government will identify the structural causes of money laundering to hold accountable those who are responsible.” 

       In a news conference outside the chamber, Premier John Horgan said an inquiry would lead to “years and years of hearings and mountains and mountains of legal bills.”

       Some of the loudest voices lobbying for a public inquiry are from within the NDP: the B.C. Government and Service Employees’ Union, which represents workers at several casinos, and Port Coquitlam Mayor Brad West. Horgan was asked whether he was reluctant to call a public inquiry because of the possibility that his chief of staff, Geoff Meggs, and members of the former Vision Vancouver city council would have to testify or because of his own past as a consultant who worked on a campaign to lift a moratorium on slot machines in Vancouver.
       
       “I tend to go for incompetence before I jump right to conspiracy,” Horgan said. “I usually find that conspiracy takes a lot of organizational skills and quite often that’s not apparent in these situations.”

       Horgan said the former BC Liberal government was in power when the money laundering problem mushroomed, he does not support gambling and “what I did as a consultant 15 years ago has no bearing on the situation today.”

       He did say that if reports coming this spring by former RCMP deputy commissioner Peter German and former deputy attorney-general Maureen Maloney conclude that more work needs to be done, Horgan said, “a public inquiry will help us with that, I have zero problem with going in that direction nor does the attorney general.” 

       “When it comes to money laundering, this is a real and present danger to our economy and our people,” Horgan said.”

       So…after all Sam Cooper has revealed…how the hell did all this happen without a wide network of people within and out of government and bclc, conspiring to make it possible?

       I actually can’t believe that came out of his mouth.I’m quite concerned at his attitude through all this.

       But hey, govts going to help you with a transparent cell phone bill.

       How about a transparent government first, Johnny?

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32. Seems that each day brings a new revelation that diminishes the already inadequate German report, and John Horgan holds up the prospect of another report from the same source as justification for inaction.

    I don’t believe John Horgan lacks intelligence, either innate or gathered. Which means he must fear the results of an inquiry more than the fallout from not establishing one in the face of growing evidence the public and the public interest demands one.

    That’s worrying.

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    1. Moreso because of the mention of incompetence. Does he seriously believe this all happened because of incompetence?

       I cant even wrap my head around that statement.

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33. I found the “incompetence” comment strange and also thought Mr. Horgan’s body language and demeanor changed as he addressed Bob Mackin. Was that just me?

    I am not comfortable with what I am seeing here.

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    1. It did. And I’m not comfortable either. As I mentioned in an earlier comment a while ago, I recently saw ndpers calling Bob out for an article he had written on the ndps slowness on transparency with foi’s etc. The blind partisanship is toxic when they start attacking someone who’s done more to document the BC libs than anyone.

       They expect us all to shut up and go away. This inquiry matters. For so many reasons including peoples lives. There is so much more at stake here. And they are willing to accept any amount of wrongdoing to keep the ndp in power when what they should be doing is calling Horgans office and saying this is unacceptable.

       If it were Wilkinson stalling, twitter would literally explode.

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34. Apologies Laila, I don’t want this to shift topic but need to say it.
    “Wilson-Raybould’s resignation prompts Trudeau to say she failed in duty to voice SNC concerns.”
    Sounds pretty desperate to me as Mr. Sunny Ways turns dark.

    So, back to topic, some things I picked up over the last couple of days (paraphrased);
    Mr. Plecas…”referring to past MLAs breaking laws, not current ones.” Richie gets a pass then?
    Mr. Horgan…”create new policies to make sure these (James) things don’t happen again.” There it is, the James escape clause; “there are no signs, in the HOUSE saying don’t fargin’ steal stuff.”
    Mr. Horgan…”I go to incompetence not conspiracies.” So, the liberals did not conspire with SNC and a multitude of Asian and Malaysian criminal dictators?
    Mr. Horgan…”Bob, you asked about a money laundering inquiry so I’ll deflect and babble on about BC Rail.” Sad Mr. Horgan, very sad.

    Anyway, to keep us all from going nutz, here a chuckle from Mr. Weaver;
    “Heading out of town 4 two days. I figured I’d use the $1000 MLA suitcase. Committee clerk office sent me to Clerk office who sent me to Sargeant at Arms office who sent me to Clerks office (which I pointed out I’d been 2) before phoning Acting Sargeant who had no idea.”

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    1. Trudeau’s digging a very large hole for himself. And dont apologize, your comments are timely

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35. https://globalnews.ca/news/4966313/self-proclaimed-fentanyl-mule-confession-tossed/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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    1. Not discussed yet by pundits in todays budget…

       7% of gaming revenue in BC is going to be taken from the general revenue that usually would go into provincial coffers,and given to First Nations in BC https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/budget-at-a-glance-10-key-takeaways-from-b-c-s-2019-provincial-budget-1.5025351

       A fair move, and fulfills an election promise …but with 7% of gaming funds the province normally relies on for general revenue gone, there is no way in hell the premier is going to do anything that might further drop revenue, and in fact they will now rely on revenues from the new Delta casino approved late last year.

       The push for an inquiry just got more important and more difficult I suspect.

       Please show me I’m wrong.

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       1. From Bob Mackin:

          ” “Amid a money laundering crisis in British Columbia, the NDP provincial government is giving the gambling regulator a boost of just $200,000 for the next fiscal year.

          “Meanwhile, an extra $2.4 million is allotted for government advertising that the party called wasteful when it was in opposition. It is also sending another $6 million to the Legislative Assembly, which is under a cloud of corruption and waste.”

          https://thebreaker.news/news/ndp-budget-2019/

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36. Calling David Eby and John Horgan…

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5086278/b-c-liberal-minister-intervened-to-raise-betting-limits-ignoring-money-laundering-warnings-about-chinese-vips/

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37. Boom.

    Thank you cabinet.

    Cant wait to see Rich Coleman on the stand.

    https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2019PREM0052-000958

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38. Can you believe it! After all this time! Let’s hope its not a wild goose chase.

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    1. Having seen the terms of reference though, there is a massive missed opportunity here that will become glaringly apparent.

       It isn’t a corruption inquiry.

       It is a money laundering inquiry only.

       Which means it sidesteps a massive amount of corruption that has occurred and continues to occur in government and in public projects that’s not linked to money laundering.

       THAT is what I have been pushing for, since 2012. Right now, there is a lot of deep sighs of relief in certain quarters that its limited to money laundering.

       The Charbonneau style corruption in construction goes unscrutinized.

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39. Posting this on this post https://globalnews.ca/news/5460281/bc-casino-regulator-complaint-bclc-management-dirty-money/

    As explained in the blog post this comment thread is attached to….

    The German report is still tainted and should be questioned even further now with todays breaking news on Kroeker.

    And this is why. From the original post above.

    ” An anti-money laundering expert hired for B.C.’s “arms-length” probe into casino money laundering was previously hired to work for Great Canadian Gaming, the company at the centre of the probe, according to documents and sources.
    Documents obtained by Global News and source interviews indicate that, Jerome Malysh — a former RCMP financial crimes investigator — was hired as a consultant to complete compliance audit work for Great Canadian by Robert Kroeker, the gaming company’s former director of corporate security and compliance.
    Kroeker left Great Canadian Gaming in 2015, to become B.C. Lottery Corp.’s vice-president of corporate compliance.
    After September 2017 Malysh was also hired by Peter German, a former RCMP executive, to complete work for German’s March 2018 report, Dirty Money: An Independent Review of Money Laundering in Lower Mainland Casinos…..
    ….German cited Malysh’s previous work for B.C.’s Gaming Enforcement Branch. But there is no known mention of Malysh’s previous work for a casino company.
    Some critics have raised questions about Malysh’s participation in German’s report. The critics, including current Lottery Corp. staff, wonder if German’s report “minimized” the role of River Rock staff in the acceptance of bags of suspicious cash.”

    Kroeker was director of compliance and security at Great Canadian.

    Kroeker hired Malysh to do compliance audit work for the casino.( everything is awesome)

    Kroeker then moved onto BCLC as VP of Corporate Compliance.

    Scandals break over and over on money laundering in BC casinos.

    Province orders report led hy Peter German.

    German hired the same guy who did work for Kroeker at Great Canadian, Malysh, for work on the German report looking into money laundering that includes casinos Malysh worked for!

    Critics say German minimized role of casino staff/exec’s in money laundering debacle.

    Kroeker now removed as allegations he pressured staff to overlook dirty money….

    If it were me in charge of this inquiry, I’d excuse Peter German from any more involvement. But that’s just me….and I would revisit every aspect of this reported on by Malysh and German in that report, in the coming inquiry.

    This all just adds another level of questions that remain unanswered

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40. I have always had my doubts about Peter German too. So in light of that we can only hope those whistleblowers help expose so much bad stuff on the corruption that nothing can be buried. Hopefully. I guess it depends on the level of inquiry and the amount of backstage political string pulling and buddy protecting is going on.

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