Rainy day thoughts from the island

At long last the rains have returned to my portion of the island – for now at least – and since I am sequestered at home today with a child contagious with either strep or mono, I find myself with a bit of rare time on my hands. Usually I am hesitant to say goodbye to summer, but this year I find the welcome cool nights and shorter days soothing after such a long, drought plagued year.

I have a few things that have been on my mind, so let’s get to it, starting with…

Site C

Over the summer I have received a few sets of photos to update on Site C, but my focus was on a family member  seriously ill in hospital so was unable to post. I thought I would wait until the long over due April-June 2019 Site C quarterly report to the BCUC was issued, but based on what I have seen and been told, that report will require a post of its own.

As many know, work is carrying on at the site with the diversion tunnels and they are beginning to create the foundations for the dam itself. Which is going to be attached to a buttress on the problematic north slope I have visually documented here for years.

The latest pics ( these already found their way to social media but worthy of posting here as well for posterity) again show evidence of water seeping through the north slope. It’s not something that can be hidden in photos- the gravel seams are high in iron, and when water seeps through this material, it picks up the iron which then rusts when exposed to air. These are the orange streaks seen on the banks in the photos below.

North bank wide shot

North bank erosion still evident
BC Hydro is on record as stating the bank is stable and monitored, however the ravine line erosion trench that I reported on earlier this summer, is still evident and likely to increase with fall rains.
Diversion tunnel entrance
This is the entrance to the diversion tunnels the river will flow through to allow dam construction. Water continues to seep along this gravel layer leaving rust stains as evidence of a consistent flow.
north axis of the dam
This is the exact location of where the dam will be attached to the buttress on the north slope. Water is seeping down the face, and pooling where the wall of dam will be situated
Diversion tunnel exit
This is the the exit of the diversion tunnels – the tunnels will divert the river around the dam construction until it is complete and the reservoir is filled. There is again, water seeping through the bank along these gravel seams and appear as rust stains everywhere water has come through.


That gravel seam runs the entire length of the north bank, and as I detailed earlier this summer here, acts like a wick, or a drainage channel for water within the bank. Its quite evident that the concrete slurry they are coating the bank with to stop erosion isn’t stopping water from leaching and the heaviest amount of water seepage appears on photo 3, which is the north axis of the actual dam wall itself. There is no way that ‘shotcrete’ will hold up when frost hits, freezes that water and the ice expands in every crack. I also wonder what will happen when the reservoir is filled if the banks slough into the water, exposing the gravel seam underwater. Will it follow the seam along the bank like my french drain takes water out of my yard?

I’ll say this again: Horgan will never stop this dam and one day we will be having an inquiry in BC as to why it was such a boondoggle, like they have with Muskrat Falls. I look forward then, to hearing Horgan explain why he continued like Dwight Ball had to. Continuing to post these updates now, acts as a record  of facts and is the only way we can keep things accountable. It is impossible to maintain costs and the budget under these circumstances. Particularly when I receive emails like this, from a trusted source who has assisted me on stories about other major project, but who disagrees with me on site C:

Hi Laila

Let me start with…I’m not against the Site C project.
However…there are safety issues.
Friends of mine work there.
Workplace accidents large and small are rampant.
Eg….a large haul truck hitting a parked articulating truck/ rock truck/ wiggle wagon.
Cause…. cocaine impairment.
Or…large haul truck dumps load in wrong pile…panics ..then drives with the box UP…and crashes into overhead conveyor belt.
Or.. workers, truck drivers, and excavator are getting hired for top pay… And then sitting around all day because management is disorganized..and can’t get asses into seats…to move dirt.
Good supervisors don’t last…most quit on first shift because of the chaotic management…so then the C- minus guys take over.
So…who is minding the store on the accident trends…and who is overseeing the dollars spent vs production? Will need to sidestep the corporate mantra of ” on time and on budget”
Based on the worksafe portion of the last quarterly report, I’d say his warning is to be heeded. The nature of some of the worksafe issues were boggling (like not having a method of keeping track who was in or out of the tunnels). And did I mention this?
Oh gee. That’s unfortunate timing…read his thread here: https://mobile.twitter.com/INTEGRITYBC/status/1172254738395607040
But let’s move on to…

The curious case of Dock Currie

It’s been a helluva interesting start to the federal election from what little I have seen… Justin Trudeaus media bus hit the Liberal campaign plane ( the irony of it all, since LPC members blame the media for everything ), Scheer’s faux poverty schtick is being fact checked, and the Greens seem to be self immolating… ( not so sure the ‘ not a war room fast response team’ thing is actually helping them)

And then I saw this…. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/second-ndp-candidate-kamloops-riding-steps-down-1.5279583   

The NDP campaign this election seems to be a train wreck and I haven’t paid attention enough to say why I think that might be. It’s sad because they have some exceptional candidates. But when I saw the reason Currie was asked to step down was over an interaction with pro pipeline people in which he said something about wanting to punch one of them, it didn’t surprise me, in fact I wondered why all the other stuff he said and did on twitter wasn’t mentioned.

Anyone who was or has been active on twitter in the #BCpoli stream, particularly during the 2017 provincial election, knows how nasty Curries interactions were with anyone he disagreed with. He attacked site C opponents who didn’t believe Horgan would stop it, allies working to defeat Clark, BC Greens, Green supporters, and I found myself on the receiving end of a very aggressive and vulgar attack once or twice where other twitter users stepped in to intervene. This was not an occasional, flippant instance as the pro pipeline incident is being portrayed, aggressive behavior was routine for him.

Curious as to why all those tweets weren’t mentioned ( or how they just picked those two as the worst), I went to twitter to search specific terms and instances I recalled well ( you can do this without a twitter account) and found most tweets have been scrubbed from his account. In some cases when searching specific terms, the replies to them remain which give an idea of the original content that is now gone, like this one:


I asked another user to look who remembered all this as well, with no luck. In fact much of 2016/2017 content is gone.

I don’t think everything one says or tweets should be held against a potential candidate if it is shown to be a rare or exceptional instance ( unless its violent, racist, bigoted). People change, learn and grow as we age and gain more life experience and I do hope Currie has in fact left those days behind, because that kind of interaction has no place in politics, regardless if you are left, right or in between. But when it’s not a rare instance then excusing those actions gives a voice for others to do so with no consequence. That wasn’t passion. That was hostility and there is a vast difference.

Therein lies the lesson for partisans involved in this federal election. Acting like an aggressive jerk on social media pushes people out of the process. You do not need to call names, threaten, be misogynistic or vile to get your point across or debate. It doesn’t help your cause, any cause. Many will disagree with me, but remember how this all looks to average people who aren’t poli geeks. Debate passionately, heartily, factually. Leave the nastiness out of it.


I saw something pass by my feed that made me chuckle today:

I couldn’t have said it better myself.  The article he links to, can be read here and I too am glad to see this calling out of the NDP’s continuance of BC Liberal policy and direction. https://www.nationalobserver.com/2019/09/11/analysis/british-columbia-critics-see-push-greenwash-natural-gas

If one had a crystal ball and could see 10 or 15 years down the road, I wonder who will have been standing on the right side of history? Those heavily subsidizing LNG shipments to Asia with ever falling royalties being paid to government coffers ( Norm Farrell has done so much excellent work on the continuing debacle)… or those who advocated, pushed and forged ahead with solar projects? https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2019/07/01/new-solar–battery-price-crushes-fossil-fuels-buries-nuclear/#217992415971

Last but not least I leave you with…

The state of forestry in BC

In one line? It’s a mess. And to be brutally honest it’s been a mess for as long as I have been blogging and probably longer. Those of us who actually followed forest policy when the BC Liberals were in power, remember exactly how nearsighted forest policy was under their leadership, and how long they were warned it wasn’t sustainable.  That’s why anytime I hear or see a BC Liberal MLA trying to grandstand on this issue talking about the NDP have neglected this, I shake my head and cringe.

Not. One. BC Liberal. Has any credibility on this issue, because nearly everyone of them was in power during the time we had in BC to actually create a sustainable plan when the pine beetle crisis first started. I am from the north and I have seen the vast endless swaths of dead trees firsthand. It made me cry the first time I was up by Babine lake when the trees were standing dead, or clear cut where cuts had started. Seriously, Bob Simpson is the most accurate person on this issue in BC, and this letter he penned is factual and accurate. https://www.quesnelobserver.com/opinion/letter-to-the-editor-forest-sector-crisis-could-have-been-planned-for/

So now that we have determined that if you have a Liberal MLA, you need to ask them about Bob’s letter and why they didn’t plan then, let’s talk about the NDP. Why are they continuing on many fronts, to allow unsustainable forest practices to continue, and why, since they have been in power for 2 years now, didn’t they begin to create and utilize a transition place immediately? They knew what was coming, they sat in opposition watching this happen. I blogged about this back in May in an open letter to John Horgan.

I know a lot of people out of work now in BC. It’s not their fault no one in government planned a sustainable future for this. The focus must now be on a transition path to second and third growth industry, and assistance to retrain if needed.

Enough said now, I’ve gone on too long again!

That’s the issue with so much time between posts, I end up having more to say than I anticipate when I start!!  Fall is coming and another group of geese has just gone over to the  salt marsh, honking their arrival in formation. And I think of Mary Olivers poem and how that’s just the perfect end to this post. Enjoy the last of summer or beginning of autumn,depending on where you are. I have a feeling winter will be wicked here on the island this year…


Wild Geese” by Mary Oliver

You do not have to be good.

You do not have to walk on your knees

for a hundred miles through the desert, repenting.

You only have to let the soft animal of your body

love what it loves.

Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine.

Meanwhile the world goes on.

Meanwhile the sun and the clear pebbles of the rain

are moving across the landscapes,

over the prairies and the deep trees,

the mountains and the rivers.

Meanwhile the wild geese, high in the clean blue air,

are heading home again.

Whoever you are, no matter how lonely,

the world offers itself to your imagination,

calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting—

over and over announcing your place

in the family of things.


26 thoughts on “Rainy day thoughts from the island

  1. Glad your back Laila. I hope you had great summer. I had a wonderful summer. Anyways back to the the business of opining. Unbelievable about the Trudeau management shutting out the police investigation. First the obstructing of the Attorney Generals office and the subsequent fallout they dumped on JWR. Now this. The little Canadian dictatorship that thinks they are above the the law. So much for the law and police enforcement. Or the Attorney Generals office that seems to be back in the pocket of the PMO since JWR got stabbed in the back by the corrupt. The criminals rule in Ottawa. Do we want this road for the future because this is a clear sign of what’s to come for our democracy.

    About John Horgan and Site C. Well it’s come down to quite a simple equation to me now. If there was to be an inquiry down the road, which i doubt, then the only answer to be given by Horgan as to why he continued, but of coarse it wouldn’t be stated, should actually be… I did it for mine and my party’s special interests just like Christy Clark did. She did it too. I’m a political leader, and that means the general public and their interests come last. That’s what we politicians are programmed to do. The paycheque is good from the taxpayers and ratepayers. Thankyou for that, but i’m a politician still and it’s just not the in thing to do by serving the people first. I realize there are good people out there who want to do right and good, but they are drowned out by the lousy ones. Hopefully the tables turn, but i admit that i’m sadly cynical. I will still vote, but not for the any of these estabishment bums of the status qou rot pile.


  2. Great to see you back.


    In your absence a Norman Farrell quote helps to sum up 50 years of post-WW2 decline.

    “Corruption expands to meet the needs of the corrupt.”

    Proof to the contrary? None. But by itself the word Corruption doesn’t identify any actual source. Perhaps it would be more helpful to conclude, “Corrupted bureaucracies expand corruption to meet the needs of the interests of those who control their use.”

    Curiously, this reconnects with some ideas in circulation during the years 1960 to 1980. Ideas which irked many parents with “What the hell are these pinko school teachers teaching our kids!”

    Ideas soon abandoned. Extinct. Til now.

    C. Northcote Parkinson, “Parkinson’s Law”. To paraphrase: the underlying goal of any bureaucracy is to expand itself indefinitely. Any stated purpose of what a bureaucracy is “meant” to do at some point becomes largely cosmetic.

    Michel’s, “Iron Law of Oligarchy”. In his studies of European politics an idealistic group, determined to reform the state, takes on the ruling order and wins. To their surprise the rebels form government. As government, the leadership realizes how vulnerable they are to being overthrown. Policies shift. Forgotten are crucial acts to reform the state. Instead emphasis is directed to protecting the reformers’ hold over the state. The rebels become what they opposed.

    Stanley Milgram’s, “Obedience To Authority” experiments. Determined to prove that The West was incapable of the same barbarity and “We Were Under Orders!” feigned innocence of Nazi troops Mr Milgram set out to test the superior virtuosity of Western Values. His experiments were expected to prove that Americans would never pretend their worst actions were merely a matter of Being Under Orders. Post War Americans were too clearheaded and morally strong to blame their superiors for their own acts. He failed.

    An Ottawa Economist described the rise and death of a man he admired, Nikolai Kondratieff and his 60 Year Cycle. Stalin promoted Kondratieff’s Wave to “prove” that Capitalism must fail. Later, Stalin had Kondratieff murdered. Why? The Ottawa writer theorized that what Kondratieff’s work uncovered was a timeline. It took approximately 2 generations of increasing dysfunction brought about by concentrated corruption to create sufficient social chaos to cause a sharp economic collapse.

    He went on to say no it wasn’t the moon or stars (solar or lunar cycles) which governed human conduct. More likely Kondratieff inadvertently realized that too many crooks spoil the state.

    Like you, Mr Farrell hasn’t lost the thread of where we are and he concludes his essay with

    “So, who are the caretakers of public interest?”

    “MLAs cannot speak except to amplify approved party policies. The Auditor General is underfunded and government pays large sums to consultants for opinions that are sometimes predetermined. Those opinions may be compromised by the large fees involved.”

    “Influential media commentators have been co-opted by indirect financial rewards from parties with interests in public business. News publications and broadcasters enjoy lucrative government advertising but the quid pro quo might be friendly coverage.”

    “And, of course, the bureaucracy expands to meet needs of an expanding bureaucracy. Executives multiply and salaries escalate, explained by the need to “to attract and retain skilled leadership“. Restraints imposed on junior civil servants have not been applied at the highest pay grades.”

    Finally. The Second Law of Thermodynamics. Implied within it is the idea that physical systems are subject to increasing disorder over time. Entropy.


    “In sociology, entropy is the natural decay of structure (such as law, organization, and convention) in a social system.”


      1. That’s good, but if we have the unfortunate event that has the Liberals back in power then Langley’s MLA Shirley Bond or someone else would most likely be at it again pushing to give back gobs of money to business. So yeah WCB needs to build those funds to be stolen back for their business buddies. It’s too bad politicians like Bond are still in office. Really sad. Don’t forget that the dirty BC Liberal leadership degraded WCB against workers interests. and I haven’t seen any significant changes this government either reinstate the better coverages and for injured workers that were much better a long time ago.


        1. WCB is a joke. Truly. One wonders why it exist as it seems to protect the employer more than the worker at times.

          The NDP havent done anything to WcB yet. Not a priority I suspect.


  3. My thoughts for the election would be to see the Elisabeth May and the Green Party at least in an opposition role in government. And only see a minority government if it ends up being another dirty Trudeau government or a scummy Conservative one.


  4. I’m amazed that neither the Greens or the federal NDP haven’t picked up on US Senator Elizabeth Warren’s attack on Government/political corruption. I saw her the other night on Stephen Colbert and what she was saying certainly had the whole audience’s attention. I wonder if any party here in Canada, during the election, will have the balls to talk about this subject


  5. Two observations.

    1/ Awkward that 16 year old Greta Thunberg has demonstrated more brains, courage, and integrity than the sum total of the world’s politicians and their sycophant pundits, no?

    2/ The world’s media published lots about Friday’s marches supporting her movement. But odd that no story mentions any politician being present.

    In similar news.

    Situated on the Ring of Fire, BC is dotted with volcanoes and floats above magma. If plate tectonics hadn’t literally moved mountains Vancouver Island would be where?

    All that trapped heat below us? A problem? A hazard? A hopeless risk?

    But somehow not for Iceland?

    Iceland. Population: 338,349 Greater Victoria. Population: 367,770 .

    Here? Despite a few pols reluctantly agreeing that there’s a Climate Crisis and governments must “do something”, the same invertebrates in government refuse to stop subsidizing the main problem: dependency on toxic energy. Worse they contend that it is “playing safe” to spare our latest Deity, The Economy, by killing the planet. When didn’t The Gods require sacrifice?

    No surprise, the world’s offspring see that the emperor’s lackies are buck naked and chronic liars. They recognize that poisoning a planet to create Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! is stupid-stupid-stupid. Why? Because a future of selling your lungs to repair a contaminated heart is not viable.

    Yet our politicians persist. They love to declare they know of no other way – quickly – to help end voluntary dependence on fossil fuels. Or rather none that keeps the worst of them in office, pays their bills, and helps stash hefty sums in offshore crime zones. Again, awkward.

    So it seems that daring to use their brains has been abandoned to two groups: people too young to vote and some very bright First Nations folks.


    “A depleted natural gas field in the Horn River Basin near Fort Nelson has been identified as a prospective site for a geothermal power plant.”

    “The Clarke Lake Field, located 14 kilometres southeast of Fort Nelson, has had more than 100 natural gas wells drilled into it, activity which Geoscience BC says provides valuable data about conditions below the surface. Its report assesses a potential 15 MW geothermal project at two potential sites in the Clarke Lake Field from a site servicing and development perspective.”

    “Fort Nelson First Nation Chief Sharleen Gale said she’s excited at the potential benefits such a project could bring to the community.”

    “Fort Nelson First Nation is grateful for the studies by Geoscience BC that have highlighted geothermal resource opportunities immediately adjacent to our home community and located in our territory where our people have lived for thousands of years,” Gale said in a news release.”

    “There aren’t many places in the world where you can access geothermal energy — it could revolutionize the north! We are grateful for this unique opportunity to pursue clean, renewable energy that can provide us with food security, energy independence and diverse economic opportunities in our territory. The possibilities are endless.”

    Endless. A possibility first realized in Iceland, but why nowhere else?



      1. Well, hopefully the Mayor of Victoria didnt take an entourage of “assistants” with her like Christy Clark everywhere she went OR the former Preem of Alberta when she flew to South Africa for Nelson Mandela’s funeral……which, as it turns out….was the final straw for Alberta voters…..


        Apparently its isnt just male politicians that enjoy snuffling at the trough of power……


      2. Tim,

        Right you are. Not only Mayor Helps but Premier Horgan did his best Friday to placate bystanders with the usual zero-evidence proof of Good Intentions.


        If Mayor Helps in New York, and Premier Horgan here, did hear Greta Thunberg’s fireworks at the UN I wonder if they understood who needed to stop intending and start doing.


        “How dare you continue to look away, and come here saying that you are doing enough, when the politics and solutions needed are still nowhere in sight,” she told the United Nations.
        She continued: “You say you ‘hear’ us and that you understand the urgency. But no matter how sad and angry I am, I don’t want to believe that. Because if you fully understood the situation and still kept on failing to act, then you would be evil. And I refuse to believe that.”


        “You all come to us young people for hope. How dare you,” said Thunberg, the most prominent face of the youth climate movement since launching school strikes last year. “You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words.”

        She added: “If you choose to fail us, we will never forgive you. We will not let you get away with this.”


        1. I wonder what she would say about Horgans justification of LNG here:


          ” When asked how the province can justify supporting a proposed LNG energy project and simultaneously try to curb greenhouse gas emissions, Horgan said B.C. is just 4.5 million people sharing a planet with seven billion others.

          “We have to be realistic about what our impacts would be,” he said.

          I will never forget that statement. Or the ones of those who now defend LNG as vehemently as they opposed it when it was Clark at the helm


  6. Curious, no?

    Why are Scandinavian countries light years ahead in applying both technology and conservation to help mitigate “impacts” BC consistently ignores?

    Aren’t concrete measures exactly what Iceland has prioritized for years? How can that tiny island have dared to take expensive giant steps with a population smaller than Victoria, BC?

    Are our Deep Policy Engineers bewildered by the presence of too many people in BC?

    If it’s not too much to ask, which horrible environmental impacts have the`NDP avoided?

    Finally, Looking-the-other-way as Policy. Is that what being “realistic” demands?

    Greta again…

    “We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk about is the money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth!”

    Fired by conscience, driven by an imperative purpose, a Viking spirit.

    We need more of that. Like it or not.


    1. I like it and we do need more. But where are those fierce spirits?

      If I had a dollar for everytime I was told not to let perfection stand in the way of progress when it comes to the NDP….🙄

      I don’t expect perfection. That’s the crazy thing about it. Perfect isnt possible nor should it be a goal because humans are just that..human. We fail. We try again. We do better when we know better.

      And that perhaps is the heart of it. ” We do better when we know better “. Except the NDP knew better on LNG, and Site C, and fracking, and the health issues and even their own review was inconclusive…and they didnt do better, they just kept steaming along the path Clark paved and even out subsidized her.

      They knew better, but didnt do better and the fiery souls in caucus dimmed their lights and voices despite knowing better. And that’s happened on Shawnigan Lake. And Mount Polley, and old growth forest cutting. And everything we fought the BC Libs on and never expected to have to fight the NDP on.

      No one in that party has the guts to speak out.Not one. Because perfection is the enemy of progress?

      I see the enviro groups pushing hard now as they see too, the ndp isnt backing off many policy items they once opposed but now endorse. Others need to stand up to. But who will be our fiery spirit?


  7. The merit of fiery spirits? Recognition may begin here..


    “COPENHAGEN – Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg is among four people named Wednesday as the winners of a Right Livelihood Award, also known as the “Alternative Nobel.””

    “Thunberg is being recognized “for inspiring and amplifying political demands for urgent climate action reflecting scientific facts,” the prize foundation said.”

    “It added that the 16-year-old, who has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, “personifies the notion that everyone has the power to create change. Her example has inspired and empowered people from all walks of life to demand political action.””

    “Ole von Uexkull, the foundation’s executive director and nephew of the founder, said “we honour four practical visionaries whose leadership has empowered millions of people to defend their inalienable rights and to strive for a liveable future for all on planet Earth.””

    “Thunberg said in a statement by the Right Livelihood foundation that “whenever I receive an award, it is not me who is the winner. I am part of a global movement of school children, youth and adults of all ages who have decided to act in defence of our living planet.”“

    “Thunberg’s campaign, begun on Aug. 20, 2018 when she held solitary demonstrations outside Sweden’s parliament, skipping classes once a week to protest climate change. Her solo protest has inspired millions across the world to stage protests urging leaders to tackle global warming.”

    To summarize. Visionaries of all ages want “a liveable future for all”. They’ve joined “a global movement of school children, youth and adults” who object to the dysfunctional train wreck of Bait and Switch politics.

    The NEWS?. Without the goading of obvious leaders we’re witnessing a mass consensus which asserts that for executive-level decisions to be humane, intelligent, rational and valid, scientific facts must overshadow narrow-interest politics.

    Otherwise? When have our squads of typical political rivals – obsessed with gaining control of the Public Treasury by appealing to a limited number of backers (sorry, Stakeholders) – actually created a permanent livable future for those they exclude from consideration?


    1. Great pictures Marc.

      Seeing all the logging trucks rolling through Vancouver is quite a sight to see. A lot have signs talking about their families. I know exactly what they are going through because I grew up in a forestry town and my entire family worked and still works in it. A family member is still a foreman in a sawmill up north, I’m not sure how long he’ll be working.

      It’s hard not to feel conflicted. I’ve argued a lot over the years with family and friends about the unsustainability of the industry as it was managed for so long. Cuts everywhere, tree planting didnt keep up pace in many areas, and logs were going overseas like crazy once Asia started demanding more lumber. Only what people thought were raw logs, in some cases were considered value added products because they’d been scraped free of bark…the Value added went to lumber barons pockets, it wasnt value added for local workers. Then the pine beetle killed vast swaths of trees, grey dead sticks as far as you could see in every direction in many areas. What the pine beetle didnt kill, forest fire suppression helped destroy when the undergrowth filled in and tinder dry conditions spurred by drought burned the rest.

      What’s also not mentioned is how so many of these towns residents voted against their own best interests for years in supporting a govt whose policy lead us to where we are today, which is why the NDP made the changes they did.

      Which is neither here nor there now, but its pissing me off seeing so many say these forestry workers reaped what they sowed. The workers didnt do this. The forest industry leaders did. The prior govt did.This govt has been slow to act and rejig things. On island here they are cutting old growth so fast its appalling. And now its come to a head.

      People in metro van dont always get how forestry supported this province for decades.

      Pulp mills, sawmills, loggers, and all the spinoffs. It’s sad to see it where it is now, and the best we can all do is push government policy towards a sustainable second and third growth industry, and support them while they push industry to retrofit mills to produce lumber specs that fit the domestic market.

      We shouldnt see trees going overseas, getting milled and then shipped back to Canada. Yes that happens.

      And if you hear or see someone crapping on loggers or forest workers, show them this please.
      I don’t agree with cutting the current govt slack when I see old growth so big only 3 logs fit on a truck, flying down roads here on Island, but this does give a wider picture of what happened to get us to this point.



      1. Andrew Wilkinson along with every other BC Liberal have zero moral ground over the NDP on this issue as I pointed out in my post( their forest policy created this mess over a decade), but this article shows the UBCM delegates do not support the Horgans government move on this at all, as it is, as I pointed out,punitive to other small communities. And ndp partisans need to stop supporting crap policy when their party makes bad decisions.



      2. Well this is quite unreal. If Clark had said this, bcpoli would have been all over it


        ” Regarding other applications, for tourism development, trail building and other projects, Horgan compared the demands to the desires of children.

        “I’m not at all concerned that people would prefer to have everything right now,” Horgan said. “When I was a kid, I always wanted everything right now too, and I ended up turning out OK.”


  8. . I don’t think it was a misstatement from Horgan either, because it’ was too drawn out. Power corrupts the thought processes and makes them drunk with arrogance and lacking empathy. I would be amazed if he apologizes to those communities of the working class and their leaders. Doubtful though. He will only be concerned when it ‘s election time as most politicians are. This will bite him in the ass. Political death self destruction by a thousand knives. Each knife sharp with stupidity. One would think lessons would be learned from a worse box of lackies in power before. Nope.


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