It’s time for Horgan to tell Coastal Gaslink to use an alternate route to bypass Wet’suwet’en territory.

Posted on by Laila

** updated at the bottom

Article 10 of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples states: Indigenous peoples shall not be forcibly removed from their lands or territories. No relocation shall take place without the free, prior and informed consent of the indigenous peoples concerned and after agreement on just and fair compensation and, where possible, with the option of return.

On November 19th, 2019,every party stood in the legislature to applaud as  the BC government adopted legislation to implement and align BC’s laws with UNDRIP.

This….is not that.

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One month ago today I, along with many others, publicly called for all eyes on Wet’suwet’en in this blog post detailing the ongoing impasse: https://lailayuile.com/2020/01/07/all-eyes-on-wetsuweten/

In this post I explain how the Delgamuukw/Gisday’wa Supreme Court decision made in 1997, acknowledged Indigenous rights and title where no treaty had been signed.

The Delgamuukw case was framed around traditional hereditary leadership.(currently several Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs do not consent to Coastal Gaslinks pipeline on the territory)

Delgamuukw is a chief’s name in the Gitxsan Nation, passed down through generations, and Delgamuukw was one of dozens of plaintiffs in the case, composed of hereditary chiefs from both the Gitxsan and Wet’suwet’en Nations.

The lands in question in that landmark case, are the same lands in which these screen captures were taken from a live stream publicly aired today during the ongoing RCMP enforcement of the injunction.

Solidarity rally’s and demonstrations have sprung up all over Canada at times shutting down the Vancouver Port, and rail lines back east.

The BC Ndp caucus response has largely  been to pretend it’s not happening and scheduled two major press conferences two days in a row to distract press and public when the RCMP injunction enforcement began. (Very little news mainstream coverage  was dedicated to the enforcement itself, press didnt seem to get interested until they too were blocked from entry to the legislature)

As I write this, I’m unsure of the status of what’s going on, my info is gleaned from public facebook pages, and the feeds of Ricochet media and Unist’ot’en camp itself, online. There have been arrests today but gate occupants have been peaceful and have asserted many times they have no weapons.

It appears though now, that RCMP have been blocked inside the exclusion zone as detailed by this reporter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pieglue/status/1225928107971842049

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Premier Horgan made a grave error I believe, not in implementing the UNDRIP legislation, but in then declaring it is forward looking only and doesn’t apply to this project or any other underway.

You cannot have it both ways when some of the hereditary chiefs whose rights and title on this territory has been acknowledged by the Supreme Court of Canada….are now at the mercy of a  BC court ordering them not to impede the pipeline work. On their own territory where permits are still under review!

This is not going to go away, nor should the NDP caucus expect it to.

And it sets an alarming tone in trying to move forward when the expectation is Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs who are still opposed, are not important enough to consider as the ones in favour, and a peaceful resolution to government actually just means they agree to allow the pipeline.

Let me state clearly now, that I oppose the expansion of LNG in BC, along with the LNG Canada project. I always have, long before the NDP took power.

I don’t support this pipeline.

I will continue to write about the folly of such focused dedication to this lng industry. I have detailed the faulty economics and environmental issues here so many times, supported by lng future price forecasts in my most recent post.  I even detailed how the seeds for another glut of LNG hitting the market right when LNG Canada opens, are being sown right now..I don’t think this entire project will even be economically feasible when it’s done… if it is even completed: https://lailayuile.com/2020/01/29/lng-lobbyists-policy-why-big-money-is-still-a-very-big-problem-in-bc-politics/

But I can only think of what is happening of the Wet’suwet’en who are opposed , some of whom have high powered tactical rifles pointed at them and their supporters, and how to resolve it.

This government is all in on LNG. They will not stop the project or the pipeline.

Several Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs want RCMP and Coastal Gaslink to leave forever.

I believe further talks between the two will be fruitless, personally.

However, early last year,then MP Nathan Cullen suggested an alternate route be taken by Coastal Gaslink around Wet’suwet’en territory.

https://www.terracestandard.com/news/move-natural-gas-pipeline-mp-suggests/

Coastal has already moved a small portion of this pipeline once ( the approved southern route) so clearly it can be done.

Coastal does not want to change the route, but I also know Coastal doesn’t want any more issues. They avoided even discussing further alternate routes with the reporter in the link above.

Instead of sending Cullen to meet with hereditary chiefs knowing full well they will not leave or be bought off, premier Horgan should have called Coastal Gaslink to his table. And it can still be done.

Premier Horgan, you are on the wrong side of history on this issue. Even the BC Federation of Labour is calling for removal of RCMP and new discussions as of an hour ago. https://bcfed.ca/news/statements/bc-federation-labour-statement-situation-wet%E2%80%99suwet%E2%80%99en-territory

You implemented legislation to right wrongs of the past and create a new path forward. Ignoring the SCOC court acknowledged title and rights of the hereditary chiefs is not in the spirit of implementing UNDRIP.

I urge you to immediately call on Coastal Gaslink to use another route. They will whine. They will make excuses why they can’t. But you are the premier and you have an opportunity here to back up your big talk on reconciliation.

The Wet’suwet’en territory will be left untouched.

You will have your economically unviable pipeline.

The nations who have signed agreements must have their deals and benefits protected.

And it will show that you too can reconsider that it is not too late to right a wrong underway.  That is what leadership is all about.

I call on all who support Wet’suwet’en, to join me in this call for Premier Horgan to call on Coastal Gaslink to use  an alternate route.

Call, email, share online. Those with access to the premier, please use your position to urge him to act now.

*This video was shared with me online.  The background: 

” It was written and recorded on unceded Sinixt tum-ula7xw in support of Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs protecting their lands. This song is addressing John Horgan, David Eby, RCMP, Coastal Gas Link, TC energy and all others involved in this oppression. We invite you to sit down and listen. This is an appeal for you to really ask yourselves if you feel good about invading Indigenous lands and ripping people from their territories. Is this the legacy you want to leave? Is this the best contribution to the world that you’re capable of making? Will your grandchildren be proud of you?

*** UPDATE Feb 16th, 2020***

Andrew Kurjata of CBC did some digging into alternate routes. His twitter thread  detailing how and what he researched is here:

https://mobile.twitter.com/akurjata/status/1228844031729373191

And his article is here : https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5464945?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar&__twitter_impression=true

Yep. I was right again. They can reroute. They just dont want to.

” To change the route to avoid Wet’suwet’en territory at this date would require major environmental assessment work, which would not be feasible under the timelines to which we have committed….”

Coastal Gaslink does not run this province.  The government is beyond ridiculous trying to get Wet’suwet’en to agree to let the pipeline through instead of telling Coastal Gaslink to reroute. That this government just sided with the company is appalling.

Horgan and Trudeau need to tell Coastal to reroute.

*** update Feb 16, 10 pm.

A significant development..

The Mohawk leader tehonikonrathe says the CN blockade will continue for some time until the Wetsuweten Hereditary Chiefs let them know they have negotiated an agreement or  otherwise state they do not need their support.

A very well spoken man. And seemingly a historic moment.

 

37 thoughts on “It’s time for Horgan to tell Coastal Gaslink to use an alternate route to bypass Wet’suwet’en territory.”

        1. I see the RCMP have backtracked on suppressing journalists. At what level and how long. Who knows. We won’t hold our breath. Things can change. But my respect for those brave journalists is great.
          About rerouting the line. I agree, it could be rerouted but I doubt it. Horgan wants to act like a tough leader, since this is his special project. So much for working for a peaceful respectful solution to at least accommodate for that, and no interest in reconciliation efforts of some sort, even on that level. Notta a thing. It’s go to court. Get an injunction for the corporate state. Then call out the police, and bam, it’s all taken care of. Gee that was easy. Almost sounds pre-rigged huh.

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        2. I think the rcmp know there are far more people watching this than they anticipated. Suppression of journalism or the flow of news is not a good look for anyone

          I know it’s a hail Mary toss here in this post, but I dont think govt to govt talks will have any impact. Maybe I’m wrong, I dont speak for anyone but my own thoughts here and I know a lot of enviros likely dont agree with my thoughts here either and would keep calling for Horgan to cancel it. But he won’t.

          Re routing is a sensible solution for all parties involved. Not approaching this option doesnt look good ok for Horgan or Coastal Gaslink.

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    2. You got that right about the shameful, and if I may add, gutless large media outlets. But cudos to those courageous independent outside the establishment gaurdians for the public good such as yourself for one. Speaking of shameful Large Media outlets. I wonder if Global is out there defending their fellow journalists or talking up much on the leaked info to the Gaurdian about police management discussions to allow whatever force or violence is necessary up to the gate at the camp. i don’t seem to be able to find much stuff like these details talked about in depth from that particular outlet except for mainly the general stuff about the dispute there. But they are not the only media out to lunch on this. Besides not watching Global or buying the Province or Sun, I have pretty much given up on radio 98 now also. From my point of view, it’s all like a dimming dying lightbulb. Just my thoughts of the moment.

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        1. Thank you BCTF for expression of support for Unist’ot’en and the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs who do not consent.

          https://www.bctf.ca/AboriginalEducation.aspx?id=55976&fbclid=IwAR1lSsr1bUXcE8j7tFAQrmrbdUrxuSkLh4iVC1Z1FqRyf5Dr8_b6rpcFqjg
          As a union committed to the Truth and Reconciliation’s Calls to Action and the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, we call on the governments of BC and Canada, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and Coastal GasLink Pipeline to respect the position taken by the Wet’suwet’en Hereditary Chiefs.

          Our provincial government recently passed a bill that states they will honor the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples. Actions speaks louder than empty promises that First Peoples have faced for decades. If the leaders of our province and country are truly committed to reconciliation and honouring the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, then immediate action is required. Elected leaders must act now by negotiating with the respected leaders of the Wet’suwet’en Nation who hold the inherent right to self-determination including the right to defend their lands.

          The 45,000 members of the BC Teachers’ Federation stand in solidarity with the Wet’suwet’en peoples and demand that the government of BC and Canada uphold their responsibilities laid out in the Supreme Court Delgamuukw-Gisday’wa decision of 1997. We stand as witnesses at this historic moment when our governments must make a choice to uphold this court decision or continue the ongoing legacy of colonization.

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  4. off topic”

    this morning’s CBC newsletter has an article up about the restructuring of the Muskrat Falls dam restructuring of their debt load. if not for the restructuring, electrical rates would go up 75% in NFLD/Labradour.

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    1. good article. Saw the protest and march in Courtenay last week and the blocking of the 5th St. bridge. My take on this is, the gas company isn’t going to go away and neither are the protestors. Shooting protestors is going to be oh so yesterday and won’t do the federal government much good either. Could cost Canada any chance for a seat on the U.N. council.

      Now if the courts have ruled in favour of the gas company, it may not be just, but that is what the courts have said. If there is another route around the territory, then it needs to be taken asap. There is an alternative. and if the company isn’t willing to take it, then its all about a power struggle as to who determines the future of our country, corporations or people. This pipelines isn’t for us to benefit from, its for corporations and other countries, who may or may not be friendly towards us. These corporations/other countries could drop their purchases of goods at any moment and I see no reason for us to destroy our environment or upset groups of citizens deeply for this pipeline. Its not like they can’t buy the stuff elsewhere

      In the past we saw this with coal. Opened mines and then suddenly close them when prices went down or other mines opened in other countries. The jobs are temporary. the unpleasantness from the protests will last for decades. If there is another route, then I vote they use that one. We don’t need a divided province on this, which could then lead to another government, like the B.C. Lieberals.

      When it comes to pipelines, we are one good earthquake away from a disaster. I’m not that keen on that.

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    2. Never off topic
      We are well on our way to similar here I’m sure since site c costs are going up and the energy is for LNG, of which they pay a discounted rate which is approx half of our residential rate

      People need to wake the hell up.

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        2. Subsides as in corporate welfare? ENOUGH. No corporate welfare. If corporations can’t make money as stand alone entities they ought to find another line of work. We ought not to use our tax dollars to sustain their corporate profits. I’m fine with my tax dollars providing subsidized housing, higher welfare rates, high CPP rates, the federal child benefit cheques, but unless its a one town industry which needs some temporary support, I’m not in favour of tax breaks or subsidies for corporation. when I’m even a couple of days late with my payment for B.C. Hydro the next thing I receive is a notice to disconnect as do thousands of others in this province. A subsidy for corporations, to benefit foreign countries and corporations, not on my nickel. If these corporations need a subsidy for electricity, then we all should receive one, especially people living below the poverty line. A corporations not so much.

          For the money they are spending on Site C, they would be a lot better off by simply giving those workers their current salary for the next few years and send them home. They could use the money to return to school, set up their own business, etc. It would be less expensive and we would still have the land, which we will need at some future date to grow food. The money spend on Site C would be much better used by having workers build schools, roads, hospitals, care homes, affordable and social housing, etc.
          o.k. I feel better now……..

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        3. “The B.C. New Democrats cannot have been happy that the pipeline protest arrived at the front steps of the legislature in time to draw attention away from Tuesday’s speech from the throne.

          Still, there was an element of justice in the NDP being confronted with the controversy as they were preparing to lay out their 2020 legislative agenda.

          For the arguments being made by the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs opposed to the Coastal GasLink natural gas pipeline are similar to arguments the New Democrats themselves made before they got into government.

          The Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs — and their allies in mounting the protest at the legislature — say they, not elected chiefs and band councils, are the rightful custodians of the traditional territories of their people.

          New Democrat Doug Donaldson, speaking for the then-Opposition, said much the same thing back in 2015.

          “In the Wet’suwet’en governance system, the rightful aboriginal titleholders are the hereditary chiefs,” he told the legislature. “This is different from the Indian Act-created band council system. Band councils in Wet’suwet’en territory have a federally conferred governance role on reserve lands created by the Canadian government.”

          Donaldson was speaking during debate on Pacific Northwest LNG, a multi-billion-dollar liquefied natural gas project being proposed for a site near Prince Rupert.

          He went on to explain why the jurisdictional distinction between hereditary chiefs and elected band councils mattered.

          The natural gas feeder pipeline for the project was crossing the territory of both the Wet’suwet’en and Gitxsan people.

          But the chosen route was not across the reserve land overseen by the band councils. Rather, in the case of the Gitxsan, “it crosses hereditary house group territory subject to aboriginal title.”

          In outlining the difference between hereditary chiefs and elected band councils back in 2015, Donaldson lamented that the then-Liberal government “has difficulty understanding or recognizing” the distinction.

          But his own party would appear to be having similar difficulties now that it is in government.

          While the New Democrats opposed Pacific Northwest LNG (which died soon after they took office), they endorsed the Kitimat project and approved $6 billion in tax and regulatory relief to make sure it went ahead.

          Every time Premier John Horgan is asked about the standoff, he emphasizes that the project is supported by the elected leadership of all 20 First Nations along the route.

          More to the point was the comment made at about the same time by his NDP colleague, Jennifer Rice.

          “It’s important to know that Indigenous people have Indigenous laws that go back thousands of years,” she wrote on social media. “The elected band council system is a colonial construct with the historic intention of annihilating Canada’s First Peoples.”

          Donaldson and Rice, one a minister, the other a parliamentary secretary, are the only two elected New Democrats from the region.

          I’ve not noticed them disavowing the comments reported here — comments in sympathy with the things the hereditary chiefs themselves have been saying about their jurisdiction and laws.

          While the chiefs and their allies have their own reasons for opposing the pipeline, they might also feel that they were encouraged in their intransigence by the words spoken by the New Democrats themselves.”

          https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/vaughn-palmer-past-ndp-statements-may-have-laid-foundation-for-pipeline-protests/amp?__twitter_impression=true

          Truth from Palmer. This is the biggest issue. That so many mlas stood up and fought for the rights of these people ( and others), used them to get elected and then basically turned their back on them.

          Horgan will never win BC Lib voters over. I dont know why any of them think this. They barely won power after 16 years of corrupt malfeasance by the BC liberals, what does that tell you about a good portion of voters in BC?

          They have cancelled the outside ceremonies today prior to the throne speech. Theres plenty of anger everywhere.

          Reroute the damn pipeline Horgan. Call Coastal and reroute the pipeline.

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      1. read that article and another one on the subject and yikes! That is one huge bill people are going to be paying some day in B.C. along with the run of the river projects electricity here will be so expensive, people will be putting in illegal wood fireplaces, just to keep warm. This is not money the province can afford to spend, at least not on a dam where only 3 or 4K people work

        Site C will subsidize electrical power for other resources and where will it end. People who can’t get insurance for their condos will want money from the government also and no one wants to pay taxes, well almost no one. I’m one of those who adheres to the line, “I like taxes, it buys me civilization”.

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  5. The federal government today says it will meet with protesters to try to diffuse
    the situation across Canada.
    It’s not the protesters they and the Horgan government should be meeting with, it’s the Hereditary chiefs they should sit down with to reach a solution satisfactory to all parties (ie change the pipeline route).
    Horgan and the corporate press have tried to change the narrative to place the focus on the protests and protesters when focus should be on aboriginal traditional lands.

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    1. The feds and Scott Fraser are meeting with Wet’suwet’en to specifically to talk about having the CN line blockade removed. That’s it.

      Beyond that, I dont know of course, but it is my beliefs the hereditary chiefs will not agree to anything when it comes to the pipeline on their territory.

      There was an Angus reid poll showing people are split on the protests so it’s not as opposed as Horgan would like to think.
      People are not dumb when it comes to reconciliation and what it means. He looks like a hypocrite and arrogant too Boot.

      I posted this to FB recently.

      It still holds true today

      ” Watching Horgans presser, he doubles down on protestors, he ironically speaks of workers being illegitimately being denied access to their work place and hauled up stairs by cops…. just days after Indigenous women are deemed ” illegitimate” by injunction, arrested and denied access to their territory.
      He basically says Grand chief can sit his grievances all he wants but he intends to go with the vast majority who want prosperity. When confronted with his prior words on hereditary leadership and how it’s exactly what is being said now by hereditary leadership who dont want Coastal, he says it’s not his job to get involved now.

      I recently commented elsewhere about how politicians play Nations against Nations:

      ” It’s a game being played by politicians and industry alike and its shameful to do so!!

      The Wet’suwet’en have always been of different views on this since it began and anyone who has followed this for as long as some of us knows this.
      It’s been detailed in many news articles over the years and hereditary chief Helen Michelle has always been just as vocally in support for this project for years,as have elected council.

      She is not a “secret” as being portrayed by pro industry groups the last few days. A quick search of news reports will show she has always been as loudly in support of LNG as Unist’ot’en has been against.

      This does not, in any way , take from the validity of the hereditary chiefs position who are against this pipeline on their territory and whose rights and title on these lands were recognized by the Supreme Court of Canada decision of 1997.

      Once again, nations who support the pipeline are being played against Nations who do not support it by politicians and industry, trying to make them look like outliers, rebels and rogue. It is shameful and it is not in line with having enshrined UNDRIP. This happened on site c too.

      This all begins with government and industry operating on the premise that No is not an option. There really isnt an option given to anyone to refuse. How is this reconciliation?

      Those who haven’t should take 10 minutes and read this piece from Narwhal that details how govt and industry worked to try and squash that 1997 decision very few media mentioned or want to talk about.

      The fact that Christy Clark is right on line with Horgan should have everyone silent on this bowing heads in shame.

      Don’t forget.

      1) the supreme court recognized in 1997, the hereditary rights and title of the chiefs on the land in question.

      2) that acknowledgement is still being ignored by our current govt.

      3) the option of rerouting around has been presented several times in past years, most recently last year by Nathan Cullen and Coastal chooses not to reroute citing cost.

      4)the Ministry of environment is currently still reviewing the submission by Coastal for Dark Horse territory and they are not allowed to work in that area pending the review …yet today happens regardless.

      You remember all this when watching the news that never mentions any of these points. ”

      Today, Horgan once again played Nations against Nations while claiming to stay out of disputes. He is not. He is dividing it further and this was in my opinion, a huge mistake. He was not humble, he was mad and I think he just set a precedent for a politician inflaming a situation further.

      LNG and this pipeline are imperative for all British Columbians, is what he said at one point.

      Gobsmacked.”

      https://thenarwhal.ca/industry-government-pushed-to-abolish-aboriginal-title-at-issue-in-wetsuweten-stand-off-docs-reveal/

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      2. and we have the Vancouver Sun, their financial insert–F.P, with an column from Diane Francis referring to the demonstrators as “Indigenous radicals”. We have Scheer doing his song and dance along with Jas Johal, all trying to tar the protestors as “having the luxury” of protesting. Suggesting they put aside their “privilege”.

        OMG, these people are nuts. the protestors don’t have any privilege, they frequently don’t even have rights. It is these 3 who talk about privilege who have it along with their corporate friends, who are having their financial income negatively impacted. If it weren’t costing any body anything, these 3 wouldn’t give a shit. these 3 don’t seem to understand this isn’t just in B.C., its across the country because Indigenous People all across the country are tired of not having rights, having their rights removed, dismissed. Never thought having mercury in your water was a privilege, but if Diane Francis, Scheer and Jas Johal think that’s a privilege, they can rush right on over to the reserve at Grassy Narrows and start drinking the water. Diane Francis, is writing, “its an existential threat to Canada and its sovereignty” and its all Trudeau’s fault. She then goes off on a tangent about Trudeau “pandering” to Indigenous leaders. Oh, really, “pandering”. Some one ought to tell her its not an election year. It makes me wonder if she has stock in CN or something.

        these 3 are trying to fan the flames of racism and nothing else. they’re afraid of the power of Indigenous People. We know Teck wants a huge open pit mine for tar. If the Indigenous People start to protest that, some of their corporate friends may not be happy.

        If people do not get out and protest if they don’t like things, you get what the Americans have, a government where the President tells his A.G to be nice to his friends and go after his enemies. We don’t need some right wing government in Canada using the “law” to punish those they don’t agree with and giving a pass to those who are their friends. We’ve seen enough of corporations getting passes, just like all those oil and gas companies in Alberta who left behind those orphaned wells.

        If they want the pipe line so badly, let them move it. Its not theirs to go through.

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        2. And I was right

          They can reroute. They just dont want to.

          ” To change the route to avoid Wet’suwet’en territory at this date would require major environmental assessment work, which would not be feasible under the timelines to which we have committed….”

          https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5464945?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar&__twitter_impression=true

          Updated and added this to the main blog post as well.

          This pipeline begins in BC and ends in BC. Horgan has always fully supported this project and why wasnt this pursued earlier?

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        4. A significant development..

          Mohawk leader tehonikonrathe explains why the CN blockade will continue for some time in the future until the Wetsuweten Hereditary Chiefs let them know they have negotiated terms and do not feel they need their support.

          This is a historical moment I think.

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  6. Much of the media fog employed to inflame, obscure, and racialize debate about what is going on during Canada-wide protests was dissipated during one short interview.

    It is here..

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1896469

    The kind of political bigotry, divisiveness, and blatant lying going on in Ottawa and BC today reminds me of earlier times and two men from down south. Orville Faubus and George Wallace.

    As in those earlier times in the US a welcome surprise here is the intervention of a Bishop.

    https://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/bishop-leads-march-to-legislature-in-support-of-wet-suwet-en-1.24075304

    Given what the Narwahl wrote about colonial collusion between the feds and BC it’s a wonder that so many Canadians – already at 2 in 5 in a recent poll – people never having seen the Narwahl’s posts simply do not trust either the intentions or word of BC or the Feds.

    Your thoughts?

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    1. I don’t trust many politicians anymore at all to be honest. I’m waiting for one to surprise me.

      The media (our major BC outlets) didn’t even seem to have much of an interest in all this prior to the enforcement, or when journalists were being limited and impeded by rcmp while trying to report. And it was all alternative independent media up there during all of it aside from a young female reporter from cbc who was driving in and out- she was the one who caught the roadblock set up to block rcmp from getting back down the road, which made them look like fools…lol.

      No the media did piss all for coverage on how this came to be, or on the 1997 decision or anything else for that matter…until the other solidarity protests started popping up across Canada. Even then there wasnt dedication to it until the legislative reporters got blocked from entering the legislature…and then the outrage happened.

      Its bloody shameful what’s happened to media.

      I hope I’m wrong but I think Trudeau and Horgan are screwing up royally every time they open their mouths and by not going personally.

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      1. Most politicians are two faced assholes who do whatever is good for themselves even if it is immoral and wrong. It’s a different picture of Horgan from when he was in opposition. It’s always interesting to watch politicians in action turning like a windsock. Always changing. Some them sure are slimy.

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  7. I caught a segment on NW 98 about this GasLink situation, protests and all. Vancouver Sun columnist Mike Smyth was filling in. Anyways,listening for a bit was more than enough to get my my head shaking. It was a hot question of the day for listeners. It went like this basically. Are you for or against the protesters. Do you want to see Horgan get tough and see the police get in there and shut them down. I see it as a really simplistic approach that only creates more stressors and divisiveness by pitting one side against the other and getting the heat turned up between people. Maybe it’s a ratings thing or some form of entertainment value by getting the I’m not sure but i find that approach to be truly bad. I realize there will always be just plain clueless trouble makers mixing in and messing up the picture of legitimate protest and debate. But the way in which Smyth and NW handled it was questionable. It’s almost as though it’s an intentional stoking the fire,as if it’s supposed to be entertaining. I personally find it a little nasty in it’s simple cut and dry approach. Maybe if anyone is interested for their own judgement they can listen on there CKNW Audio Vault on the 10am to 11am segment Jan.13. I imagine there is a lot more , but that was enough to swallow to avoid gagging.

    I think much of the media didn’t even seem to clue in to bring up up a conversation about a possible reroute of the line until i heard it from folks bringing it up here and there and from you’re informative site Laila, and of course others. It sure is a whole lotta WTF’s when it come to some or most of media though.

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  8. Anyone have an opinion how this debate is handled on the NW 98 Segment on these things. Try between the 10 am – 11 am piece Jan.13. Personally, I think some it stinks. It’s only a small sample of the Gaslink issue concerning media.
    globalnews.ca/pages/audio-vault-cknw/

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